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Podejrzana oferta sprzedaży samochodu-prośba o pomoc

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Kilka dni temu zarejestrowalem sie na ebay.pl w celu kupienia interesujacego mnie samochodu zza granicy. Oferta jest wyjatkowo atrakcyjna (a ja jestem calkowice zielony jesli chodzi o kupowanie za posrednictwem serwisow internetowych) dlatego budzi moje podejrzenia. 


W skrocie sprawa wyglada nastepujaco: jakis czas temu znalazlem oferte spredazy samochodu z Francji na mobile.eu. Poniewaz kontakt telefoniczny okazal sie niemozliwy wyslalem zapytanie z tej strony droga mailowa. Ogloszenie w miedzyczasie zniknelo (pozniej dowiedzialem sie ze zostalo usuniete ze wzgledow bezpieczenstwa) a ja dostalem odpowiedz od wlasciciela na moja skrzynke email. Podobno samochod dalej jest na sprzedaz, cena jest atrakcyjna poniewaz wlasciciel wraca na wyspy i z roznych przyczyn nie chce zabierac samochodu ze soba. Zacytuje ponizej fragmenty naszej korespondencji po angielsku (wlasciwie to wiadomosci przychodzace do mnie) i prosze o podpowiedz czy to jest dla Was wiarygodne.



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Hello,
 
Thank you for contacting me about the MARKA I MODEL AUTA.

About the car: The car is in perfect conditions, no flaws or dents, no scratches or any kind of damage, no engine problems. The interior is in like new condition and has never been smoked in. The car is still France registered under my name; the title is clear.

I worked for the last 2 years in France and bought the car there but I moved back home to Ireland one week ago. My intention was to bring the car here, but when I found out about the very high import duties and all the restrictions regarding registration and emissions tests here I've changed my mind and I've decided to sell the vehicle. We are using a different version here in Ireland (right hand drive).

The amount you will have to pay in order to own this car is CENA! As you probably noticed, the price is rather low because I would like to sell the car quickly. I prefer to sell it cheap but as soon as possible because it's costing me money to keep it in storage.

I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is 100% legitimate, the financial part of this deal will be managed by a third party, in this way both of us will be protected. They will keep the payment until you receive the car and test it.

If you decide to buy this car or need further information please get back to me as soon as possible.
Thank you, PODPIS



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Hi again,

The car is still for sale. It is already in a shipping company possession, crated and ready for delivery, so No pick up is available. I am very busy with my business, I travel allot and I have no time to go there, to handle the vehicle to you in person, that's why prefer to use eBay to do this sale. 

The final price is CENA + shipping to your door. For an accurate shipping cost please include your shipping address in your next email.

Check CLEAR : The car shows all clear on the check report as having no outstanding finance, has never been an insurance write off or stolen.

DOCUMENTS : The delivery agent will take care of all the papers. The title, 2x keys, service book & bookpack are provided. Everything will be sent along with the car. The delivery will take between 2 to 5 working days, door-to-door.

I will only conclude the transaction through eBay for our own protection. They act as a neutral third party. I shall explain to you the process, so that you know what you are getting into!

If we decide to proceed with this transaction, I will have to contact eBay and provide them all the necessary information, so they can start the process right away. I will be needing your eBay user name(if you have one), full name, address and phone number for that. You will receive a notification from eBay shortly after that, together with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well.

Regarding the payment, you will be instructed to deposit the money to an eBay bank account. They will hold and insure your money until receipt of the vehicle in good condition. That is how their buyer protection policy is working. As far as the seller concerns, I will be glad to know that eBay has the possession of the money during the delivery period. That is my insurance.

As soon as I will have the confirmation from eBay that the funds have been deposited to their account, I will immediately start the shipping process. The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5 working days. You will be given a 15 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home.

If you decide to hold the car, then you will have to authorize eBay to release the funds to me, and the transaction will be completed. If you will not be satisfied with the vehicle, you will be able to send it back through the same shipping company, and ask eBay to return the funds to you. Though I am sure you will love the car and will not want to return it, it is good to know that you do have this second option available.

If you wish to proceed with the purchase, please provide me your eBay user name (only if you are eBay member), your full name, address for delivery and phone numberso I can initiate the deal through eBay right away. If you do not have an eBay account this is not an issue, we can do business through my account, even if you are not registered with eBay; as my buyer you will be fully covered by them. Or if you want feedback on eBay, you can sign up with eBay in your country, it is very easy and free and you can have an eBay user name instantly.

I hope I explained everything to you ok. After we complete all these above steps I can only hope that you should be fully satisfied as the new owner of my car. 
Kind regards, PODPIS


 


wiadomosc trzecia:



Good evening,

I've attached you the pictures. I already obtained the costs for delivery the car to your location. You have to pay KOSZT DOSTAWY, including insurance, so your total will be CENA.

eBay will confirm you the price and everything... also the transaction terms. Of course the next step will be to open an eBay transaction. I will forward your details to eBay tomorrow morning but I want to be sure you have understood how the transaction work and what you have to do next. eBay will contact you with transaction details and invoice and you will find everything there. They will explain you step by step how the transaction work. Then you should lodge the payment by bank-to-bank, wire transfer to the eBay holding account.

The shipping will be done after I will have the payment confirmation from eBay.

After the car will be delivered to your door, you will have 15 days to check the car (test it, drive it, and even take it to a local service station..etc) so you can see that everything is ok with it. If the car doesn't match with what I have told you, it will be shipped back to me on my own expense (however I doubt that this shall be the case because the car is exactly how I described it to you) and you will be refunded by eBay.
 
Let me know if you are agree with the total amount, including delivery fees to your location, then we can proceed. I also need your full name.
Thank you,
PODPIS



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Good evening,

eBay will not allow me to send you the VIN or any documents of the car...read below :

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/CAR-DOCUMENTS-AND-VEHICLE-CHASSIS-NUMBERS-REQUEST_W0QQugidZ100000000014351...

Hope you understand. Don't worry, I fully understand your thoughts, but you should understand mine.



This is different than Buy it Now directly to eBay. My auction was closed so you can't buy the item directly from eBay but they still have it on file and we have the possibility to close the deal like i've told you. As I have this account with eBay, I have to open a case with them about our transaction. Then, they will notices us and approved us for business. You can check with them after that everything you like.

No need to advertise the car on eBay again, I consider that would be a total waste of time (not to mention money).  

If you decide not to go through with it there is no problem. I have someone else interested who will have the money on Wednesday. Please get back to me and let me know what you decide. I will appreciate a fast answer because I don't want to lose him too!
Thank you,
PODPIS



Czy ebay w jakis sposob posredniczy miedzy kupujacym i sprzedajacym? Czy daje jakas gwarancje zwrotu pieniedzy jesli okaze sie ze samochod nie dotarl do mnie lub rozni sie od opisu?



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Daj sobie spokój. Juz wczesniej tu lub na innym ebayu czytalem o podobnym sprzedawcy, ktory wlasnie sie gdzies przeprowadzil, wszystko zalatwil z jakims agentem, itp.


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'This is different than Buy it Now directly to eBay. My auction was closed so you can't buy the item directly from eBay but they still have it on file and we have the possibility to close the deal like i've told you. As I have this account with eBay, I have to open a case with them about our transaction. Then, they will notices us and approved us for business. You can check with them after that everything you like.'



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